Comments on: EPISODE 23: “WHERE ARE YOUR KEYS?”: an Interview with Evan Gardner http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/ Revitalizing Riddles, Mythic Story, Family, Village and Land. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:24:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: "Where Are Your Keys?": The Language Fluency Game http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24901 "Where Are Your Keys?": The Language Fluency Game Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:11:02 +0000 http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24901 [...] 15, 2009 · No Comments Listen to Willem interview Evan about “Where Are Your Keys?”. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)12 Key [...] […] 15, 2009 · No Comments Listen to Willem interview Evan about “Where Are Your Keys?”. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)12 Key […]

]]> By: Willem http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24620 Willem Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:27:11 +0000 http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24620 Thanks for the link! I've actually met Arlo, and sat in on several Agile conversations with him and even a team meeting or two, but I never read this article. I funny oversight on my part! I also appreciate your eagerness; we'll get more information out as soon as we can. yrs, Willem Thanks for the link! I’ve actually met Arlo, and sat in on several Agile conversations with him and even a team meeting or two, but I never read this article. I funny oversight on my part!

I also appreciate your eagerness; we’ll get more information out as soon as we can.

yrs,
Willem

]]> By: Jay Bazuzi http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24617 Jay Bazuzi Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:43:40 +0000 http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24617 Willem & Evan, the phenomenon of mental exhaustion at the end of a session is the natural consequence of the intense learning that comes with Beginner's Mind. When a person finds themselves slightly outside of their comfort zone, their brain switches to a mode where they 1. don't know the limitations of the context - what is impossible, and 2. become open to learning a great deal very fast. This is an idea I learned about from the paper linked below. It is talking about computer programming, specifically pair programming in the context of Extreme Programming, which is a type of Agile. As you seem to know, computer programming in a team is largely about creating and sharing language. By having a mentor teach a student for a short time, and then student become the mentor for a new student, information flows around the team extremely quickly. I am eager to learn more about Where are Your Keys. http://dougstewart.info/downloads/PromiscuousPairingAndBeginnersMind_ArloBelshee.doc Willem & Evan, the phenomenon of mental exhaustion at the end of a session is the natural consequence of the intense learning that comes with Beginner’s Mind. When a person finds themselves slightly outside of their comfort zone, their brain switches to a mode where they 1. don’t know the limitations of the context - what is impossible, and 2. become open to learning a great deal very fast.

This is an idea I learned about from the paper linked below. It is talking about computer programming, specifically pair programming in the context of Extreme Programming, which is a type of Agile. As you seem to know, computer programming in a team is largely about creating and sharing language. By having a mentor teach a student for a short time, and then student become the mentor for a new student, information flows around the team extremely quickly.

I am eager to learn more about Where are Your Keys.

http://dougstewart.info/downloads/PromiscuousPairingAndBeginnersMind_ArloBelshee.doc

]]> By: Willem http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24602 Willem Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:54:48 +0000 http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24602 Craig- Keep following the blog here, we'll continue to try to figure out how to make the "where are your keys' game available. We have a problem of scalability and early adoption right now; Evan and the students he has brought to fluency number quite few, whereas interested people wait scattered far and wide across the globe. For a viral, person-to-person game to spread, it must spread via people interacting with each other. I have considered posting videos, etc., but I dont' know if those could actually replace a person for teaching the game. In any case, as soon as we have an idea, we'll post it here. yrs, Willem Craig-
Keep following the blog here, we’ll continue to try to figure out how to make the “where are your keys’ game available. We have a problem of scalability and early adoption right now; Evan and the students he has brought to fluency number quite few, whereas interested people wait scattered far and wide across the globe. For a viral, person-to-person game to spread, it must spread via people interacting with each other.

I have considered posting videos, etc., but I dont’ know if those could actually replace a person for teaching the game.

In any case, as soon as we have an idea, we’ll post it here.

yrs,
Willem

]]> By: Craig http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24599 Craig Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:33:42 +0000 http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24599 Very Interesting - Is there anywhere to learn more about the 100 or so teaching techniques mentioned or how to play the game "where are my keys" Thanks, Very Interesting -

Is there anywhere to learn more about the 100 or so teaching techniques mentioned or how to play the game “where are my keys”

Thanks,

]]> By: Willem http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24576 Willem Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:18:25 +0000 http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24576 Matt: At this time, connecting up with Evan down here will probably work best. I'll also podcast more on this subject, and we'll look into putting together a website to disseminate some of the foundation understandings of WAYK. timeLESS: Sorry 'bout the audio - Evan talks quiet! I'll get him to speak up next time. I'll also do another podcast in the meanwhile about the implications of all this, to really flesh out the major insights. Matt:

At this time, connecting up with Evan down here will probably work best. I’ll also podcast more on this subject, and we’ll look into putting together a website to disseminate some of the foundation understandings of WAYK.

timeLESS:

Sorry ’bout the audio - Evan talks quiet! I’ll get him to speak up next time. I’ll also do another podcast in the meanwhile about the implications of all this, to really flesh out the major insights.

]]> By: Matt Goff http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24573 Matt Goff Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:26:32 +0000 http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24573 I enjoyed hearing this interview and would like to learn more, especially about the specifics of how the game works. Is the best bet for really learning it to figure out a way to have a workshop with Evan, or something like that? I live in Sitka, Alaska; the Tlingit people are still a significant part of this community. It's my understanding that there are still quite a few native speakers in the region, and significant work being done to try to preserve the language, but it's still at risk. In any case, I am interested in learning Tlingit, and, while there are classes offered through the local university branch (which unfortunately have not worked with my schedule), it seems like this game could be of great help with or without the class. I enjoyed hearing this interview and would like to learn more, especially about the specifics of how the game works. Is the best bet for really learning it to figure out a way to have a workshop with Evan, or something like that?

I live in Sitka, Alaska; the Tlingit people are still a significant part of this community. It’s my understanding that there are still quite a few native speakers in the region, and significant work being done to try to preserve the language, but it’s still at risk. In any case, I am interested in learning Tlingit, and, while there are classes offered through the local university branch (which unfortunately have not worked with my schedule), it seems like this game could be of great help with or without the class.

]]> By: timeLESS http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24571 timeLESS Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:01:29 +0000 http://www.mythic-cartography.org/2009/03/04/episode-23-where-are-your-keys-an-interview-with-evan-gardner/#comment-24571 Hey Willem! interesting podcast for sure! I am indeed not sure if i understand the whole thing, also sometimes the microphone seems to drift away and everything sounds really soft. I listen to the podcast on my mp3 while working outside and missed a lot interesting conversation because of cars and planes and city noise. gonna think on it.... Hey Willem! interesting podcast for sure!

I am indeed not sure if i understand the whole thing, also sometimes the microphone seems to drift away and everything sounds really soft. I listen to the podcast on my mp3 while working outside and missed a lot interesting conversation because of cars and planes and city noise.

gonna think on it….

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